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I awakened to my Therian-kin about a few months ago. But I've always had a type of deep sated, nature-connected bond to Earth.

I am not saying that I'm a Na'vi-kin, but that I am utterly intrigued and obsessed with the Avatar movie and the Na'vi People's way of life. It's mesmerizing. I wish to know and learn more.

Hello,
What kind of therian are you? It seems that lemur and feline therians are quite close to Na'kin. My bond to the earth is like that, too. Welcome to the community, and thanks for joining.

So long as you're Na'vi-sympathetic at least, it's okay. It is indeed a beautiful movie and the Na'vi way of life - my way of life - is a wonderful one. Perhaps I can teach you.

I am a Feline Therian; a black panther/leopard to be exact.

I would be glad to learn the ways of the Na'vi. They're very inspirational.

If there is anything you want to know, do not hesitate to ask!

8D My awakening story is on my LJ here - http://lumeui.livejournal.com/464.html. One thing I started to mention but forgot to talk more about is my love of horses - I dream about looking after etheral horses sometimes and for a while I thought they were thestrals from Harry Potter, but it seems that they might be the horses the Na'vi ride! Maybe I looked after them on the plains...

You were once a member of the Horse Clan of the Plains? (: I think I was Omaticaya. I miss my favorite Pa'li, her name was O'ley.

I'm a contherianthrope, bipedal wolf and manta ray. These are conclusions I have come to after years of tormenting myself, soulsearching and seeking the guidance of others.

Why do we identify with the Na'Vi? Because human nature isn't originally intended for living differently than they do. We're supposed to live in communities, with nature, hunting only exactly what we need and respecting the environment around us. Or, well, currently we're a plague species that destroys its' environment but you get the point.
We create movies like this because we feel an innate need to reconnect, which doesn't happen by watching something on a screen. If you want to reconnect, live on a farm - learn to hunt with a bow, don't pretend you're something you're not.

I'm sad to see what people do.

Hello,

My first thought is that I'm amused to see a "bipedal wolf manta ray contherianthrope" telling us we can't be Na'vi. Sorry, but what on earth is a bipedal wolf? Are you a part of the furry community?

For some years I thought I was elven or something similar - do not think that I'm leaping to any conclusions about being "other", quickly or lightly. I'm sure the other members of this community, few though they be, are the same. My other-ness has been hard for me, too (as I said in my most recent journal entry).

I'm sad to see a bipedalwolfmantaray telling others not to pretend they're something they're not.

Well, I think that you're a bunch of bullshit, tireanavi. Sorry for the honesty. But it's true.

You sound like you're wanting to start a group of followers and it's completely ridiculous. You consider yourself to be "the first Na'vi-kin" which is false. I think that you fell in love with the Avatar characters (much like I did) and decided that real or false that's what you wanted to charaterize yourself as being. Which unforunately can't be correct. Now, I understand that I'm most likely offending you and telling that you're beliefs are false, but they purely are. To believe otherwise is immature and childish.

It's ok if you watched Avatar and thought "Wow, I feel the same way the Na'vi do about the way they live and such". It's ok to want to be like them or even wish you were one, but that's not enough to actually say "I am a Na'vi kin in a human body" because you're going to lead many naive young people into something foolish and fabricated.

Why do I say it's false? Simply because James Cameron wrote the story! It hasn't even been "discussed or invented" in the past. It's something that everyone JUST NOW heard about. It's fine to want to follow after Na'vi beliefs, but you might as well follow after Native American beliefs because they think the same way as Na'vi's do. Just because I read Twilight and loved it, doesn't mean that I can say "I think I'm a sparkling, blood-thirsty vampire just like the Twilight vamps in a human body". I can't go around spreading that kind of bull.

You can tell me that my therian beliefs are false, of which, won't matter to me because I know who and what I am. At least my beliefs were once myths and legends from the beginning of time and could actually be spiritually and scientifically proven true. Yours can't be because Pandora is a made up world, as are the Na'vi.

I do not believe that it is completely ridiculous. It is not anymore ridiculous than therianthropy and otherkin. I do indeed consider myself to be the first Na'kin - can you tell me otherwise? Can you point me in the direction of the actual first one? Is it you? I think you just want to usurp me and steal my thunder. That is how it seems to me.

You are characterizing yourself as I am. I do not think that anyone who joins this community will be naive and foolish, because as a race Na'vi are wise and cunning.

It is true that James Cameron only recently wrote the story and that everyone just now heard about it. Do you think that dragons and elves are valid other-types? In five hundred years, when the origins of Na'vi are lost in the mists of time, would you think then that they are a valid 'kin type, also? Who are you to say what is valid and what is not? Can you tell me when you draw the line - how "recent" does something have to be? You must have a Word document filled with dates and periods detailing how old something must be to be valid.

I am amazed that someone with beliefs like you is telling me that what I believe is false and that what I believe to be true cannot be. Take a look at your own beliefs, first - which many people outside of the community, indeed most of humanity, would and do think insane.

YOU'RE ALL PRICKS

Thank you for your thoughts. (: I see what you think of us from your most recent journal entry. I will leave your comment here as evidence of your insensitive and harsh nature as well as evidence that you took the time and spent the energy to bother typing up such a useless comment.

You're not Na'vi. Na'vi are not real. They are a fictional creation.
Please tell me this comm is a joke.

To that I would respond that most would consider angels, dragons, and elves (etcetera) not real (fictional) but that many people identify with these species.

Could you elaborate to me how you can be Na'avi? I'm genuinly not trying to start a fight here, I am just curious as to how you believe it works. Did James Cameron's imagination make them true, somehow, in the future?

I have many theories, some of which are floating around unfinished in my mind. I have said I will try to collect and document them all and try to post them at a later date, probably cross-posted to my personal LJ as well as to the community. At any rate, it's something different for everyone and an experience personal to the individual. This person might simply feel a connection to the Na'vi. That person may identify with the race. The next person might have totemic feelings towards them. Further people might feel that they are reincarnated Na'vi, Na'vi minds in human avatars, Na'vi spirits trapped in the wrong form, or simply Na'vi at their core and center. It can be spiritual, psychological, or a mix of both.

"Steal my thunder" Are you kidding me? I could care less about your 'thunder'. You're simply not the "first Na'vi-kin" because Na'vi's do not exist.

I don't characterize myself as being a Na'vi. I never said that. I said that I am interested and intrigued by Na'vi's way of living, which might as well be Native American's way of living because Na'vi seem to be another version of Native American's ideas and beliefs.

I'm not the one saying that I'm a fictional character in a human body. You are!

I never said that Elves and Dragons are fake OR real, because I don't characterize myself as such. I said that I am a Therian. Which is very possible. Humans and animals once lived and hunted together and it is very possible that humans could be born spiritually or psychologically with an animal spirit or brain. Animals ARE NOT fictional. But Na'vi are. There isn't a planet named Pandora. A guy named James Cameron wrote it! Just like Stephenie Meyer wrote Twilight. But I can't claim to be a Twilight vampire.

It's fine to feel a connection to Na'vi, it's ok to identify with them, but it's false to say that you are a reincarnated Na'vi. I can't belief I'm still trying to explain it to you.

If you want to belief that you're a purely made up creature in a human body, then fine. Don't expect people to agree with you. There's a reason why everyone is claiming you to be crazy. You seem intelligent and yet you still don't do yourself justice by claiming false statements.

First, you have no proof that they do not exist. Saying that they do not exist, as a one hundred percent certainty, as a flat statement, is like saying God does not exist. They might exist on the astral plane. They might exist in another dimenson. They might exist in another universe. They might exist on a far-away planet. There is no evidence for them, but no evidence against. You must remember that the universe is almost infinitely expansive, so very vast beyond the abilities of the human mind to comprehend I might add, with many planetary combinations in terms of atmosphere, geology, etcetera, that it seems plausible that somewhere out there they might exist.

At any rate, I have said before that my personal opinion is that they are fictional. There are theories in the community, however, about the multiplicity of the planes of existence and the possibility that James Cameron was filtering ideas down from a higher plane - that he was chosen as a sort of conduit for the reality of that world to be told to this one. It is however only a theory in the community, one of many and not one I explicitly subscribe to.

I am the first Na'vi 'kin, however, because I am a Na'vi, and I am the first. I cannot explain it any plainer than that.

When I said "characterize" I meant that you also characterize yourself as a species which is not human, not that you characterized yourself specifically as a Na'vi. The Na'vi way of living is more a sort of collector culture - it has heavy influences from Aboriginal culture as well as Native American. I could call myself a Na'vi therian, if I desired, the only issue with that being that the terms "therian" and "were" usually refer to extant (current, living) and extinct (species which have once lived) species. You must remember that therianthropy is actually a subcommunity and a subculture within the umbrella of otherkin, because otherkin is simply the state of feeling that you are or once were something inhuman.

I am not any of the fictional characters in the film. I simply identify with the Na'vi race. I said that the reincarnation theory is only one of many and that primarily I just feel a connection to and identify with them. Is that enough emphasis on that one point for you?

I'm not here to debate the possibility of reincarnation - if you take issue with that you are taking issue with the beliefs of many eastern (indeed, in modern times, many westerners, also) people. You are taking issue with the entire Buddhist faith, if that is the case. Besides, reincarnation as a Na'vi is only plausible if Na'vi exist somewhere or once did exist, and I have explained my thoughts on that to you already.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I do expect some level of respect for my beliefs as I hold for the beliefs of everyone else. Thank you for the compliment, however.

I personally have always felt out of place, more in tune with the world around me & the world beyond. (I had a lot of experiences as a child with "spirits".) While I understand the Na'vi is a "fictional race", I connect with their way of thinking, the philosophy & how they live their lives. (Example: Taking & giving back to the planet, being one with nature, forming bonds with other people & animals, etc..) I just feel the Na'vi are a good example to live from & I feel in tune to that, if that makes sense. I felt like this for a long time, but just didn't have a "label" to connect to 'til now.

I hope that makes some sort of sense.

I know the feeling well. I have always yearned to live in harmony with nature than simply artificially and "in" it. The Na'vi lifestyle (including their philosophies and ideaologies) is a beautiful one.

Go plant a tree or something instead of whining about how close you are to nature on the internet. :/

I think that's what my reaction to all this nonsense as a whole boils down to.

Actually, I am involved in several activities like that. (: I am a member of a local recycling programme. I am interested in horticulture and have a part-time job at a florist's. I am a junior park ranger in a local national park and as it happens I took part in a tree planting only two weekends ago. At this point I would like to point out the fallcy in your comment; I am not whining.

wait...is that you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zaJdq0VUtk ?

She does not really bear a resemblance to us, no. She is too fat.

tireanavi, I recommend you read some books that changed my life. it's channeled information from the pleiadians. there are 4 books and the channeler's name is barbara marciniak. the first one is called bringers of the dawn, I would start with that.

I've read through some of these comments. while you are able to explain yourself nicely with many well put together words, I think there's a lot you're perhaps just on the brink of grasping.

we awaken in a series of planned events and circumstances. for some the process is quicker than for others. these plans are like a blueprint of our journey here on earth that we have made for ourselves... we simply have forgotten about it. yes, we have free will and the ability to choose any path we wish, but at the same time, in typical paradoxical fashion, there are fixed triggers set into motion that are meant to happen.

about free will: when you look at us as multidimensional beings, there is the idea that every single choice we've ever made is living itself out in its own reality. these other "yous" are in fact just as real as this experience; we are just perceiving from this particular facet of self. I believe that with practice we can access these other memories of alternate realities. I feel that the same thing goes for parallel lives (known as past lives)... in that our eternal essence, our soul, spirit, higher self, whatever you wanna call it, is living out all of its 'personalities' or different lives all at once. keep in mind that all time is simultaneously happening in one now. so in learning to master our multidimensionality (which is a main reason why we're here on earth at this time) we will begin accessing these parallel life memories where we are in fact in a very different body.. sometimes human, sometimes not. if you feel that you are living a parallel existence as a blue cat/humanoid, keep in mind that this is only one out of your endless incarnations.

I would say that avatar is a mass fixed agreement, created to triggor many people into expanding their perceptions and begin awakening. the reason why you feel so strongly about the world called pandora is because the frequency represented there does truly exist.

do not get stuck on the details. use the information given in avatar as a stepping stone to further explore your true nature. whether pandora exists or doesn't, this is not the point. if it is 'just fiction', that does not matter either. why should that make something not real? I believe that all art is visionary art - meaning the creator is pulling information into this realm from another. I believe that james cameron was absolutely tapping into a deep and powerful truth. but it is still his creation, in that he chose to perceive the information he gathered in his own way. avatar is a figment of his reality. keep looking within to discover what your reality is.

cat beings are something that resonates with me too, and many others... (look at the egyptians). just be wary of boxing yourself into any definite concept. what james cameran was aiming towards is a truth, but try not to fixate too much on his specific brand of explanation of it. as they say, your finger is not the moon.

I WAS SLEEPING, AND THEN I WOKE UP AT ABOUT, LET'S SAY, 9:00 AM, AND THEN I FOUND THIS PAGE (WE ARE NA'VI) AND I LOST FAITH IN HUMANITY.
GOOD RIDDANCE TO THIS BAD RUBBISH.

Ever since I've been young I've had dreams about riding above the jungle on a giant red bird. Now it's clear where these dreams came from; in a past life I was a Toruk Makto.

Newly-created journal with no entries; bare user profile; making the exact same specific-past life claims as the creator of the community, presumably because you think this will start some fights and bring your sex-starved life some lulz; you're a troll, and a fail one at that, because you're

1] amazingly late to the party
2] a bandwagon-jumper
3] severely lacking in originality.

Go away and come back when you've come up with something that's actually funny.

Jesus Christ, you people are crazy. Someone please tell me that this community is an elaborate prank.

Hear hear.
This comm is a virtual psych ward.

I'm a Chupacabra! You can't tell me any differently, because that's what I feel in my soul!!! Sometimes I like to meet with a group of other Chupacabras from my area and we do stuff. Sometimes with goats.

No, no wait.. now I... Yes. I feel that I am a Tribble. We like to gather in piles. It's cuddly and mildly erotic.

Do you know what, fine if you want to identify with fictional characters, you're not harming anyone. From what I have seen of this thread and the creator of this comm you're not only insulting towards fat people but also pull out the racist card when people don't agree with you. How very dare you do that, don't you dare compare your plight to people who are judged everyday just because of their race. If you want to think you're a blue alien, fine, but you cannot compare it to racism if people disagree, it's absolutely disgraceful of you.

pro-tip for the ragey commenter over here:

it's a troll.

i must say that i am more connected to earth and Navi than all of you together, my bond to earth is much stronger than yours and my skin is almost blue now thanks to daily intake of Methylene Blue.

We are a couple of Real Navi hanging out on another forum and we think you are just jealous because you cant be the real thing.

keep it real.